Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. As a lower class Brit I can honestly say that I too am starting to feel unsafe here. I would love to visit Prague and although I know many digital nomads pick this city to live in, I believe it's not exactly what I have in mind. Germany had low morale and wanted a change in 1940's which allowed Hitler to come to power who blamed, you guessed it, Jews for all of Deutschland's problems. An interesting article, but you lost my respect as soon as you wrote this: But this is expected seeing how it's in their blood. There are lots of things that could be better in the UK, like the NHS funding, but overall it's a fantastic country to live in and even though I'm a foreigner, I felt obliged to step in and add my 2 cents :). Very brave and I can't wait to see what comes next! Sorry to hear they treated you like shit for being a foreigner in the U.K, yet sadly, it doesnt surprise me. Education is in a terrible state in the UK. In the 90's we managed to claw that back from the fascists and say as a society this is not who we are. You can purchase anything your heart desires from the supermarket. It's just crap and I don't want to live under those conditions. I guess, home is what you make of it. I might be back to UK to visit Stratford but not sure when, and I hope the situation will get much better during my return trip. Nobody is claiming anybody's job. We have pies (a variety of them), we have the mighty Sunday dinner, the toad in the hole, the stew, sausages and mash, fish and chips. Frankly, nowadays the UK attracts the immigrants who cannot get into Australia, Canada, NZ, Singapore, and of course, the US. Her parents are aging much better than their UK siblings too, and are cheerier. Wasn't uni education free at one point? It makes me laugh that immigrants come over and then complain about high cost of housing and transport. "The culture in Britain has moved from brilliant to that of hate, racism and ignorance." Plus I wouldn't want to negate your experience anyway. Someone is always in a hurry. Though it's not where my heart is. It is no wonder people feel miserable. I think everyone tries to make the best out of their situation , while yearning for the differences that are experienced by others , this sadly doesn't illustrate the hardship or difficulties that come with moving abroad or staying abroad. Because they expect Engineering to be taken care of bu foreign workforce! Here, in Estonia, the winter is 6 months - cold, sometimes snowing, dark, wet, depressing weather. I don't know where I'm going with this, so will leave it there. You saying Italians and Greeks will never 'tick' the same as Germans, Austrians, and Dutch but do you even have a friend from Italy and Greece? We seldom feel the urge to travel for food, when there's so much local food to be discovered. Can you believe that it was because of Harry Potter that I wanted to move to the UK? [30], Characters described as "chavs" have been featured in numerous British television programmes, as well as films. We're also seeing increasing radicalisation in right wing politics because this process is a feedback loop. Of course, Portugal is cheaper than the UK, but so are salaries. I am sad because I honestly thought a country based on colonialism and multiculturalism had lots to offer, but I found a rancid class system still very much alive. You find people studying geography, english literature, philosophy and human sciences way more than any other country! If anything, people are genuinely interested where I'm from and then proceed to tell me my home country is better than Britain as that's the British way - complaining :D. Weather: Especially the South East and London actually have less rain than most places in Europe and much less rain than New York or Seattle for instance (according to statistics). It's not cool that you can only wear a skirt for 5 days of sunshine throughout the year (we call that the elusive British heatwave). Vine leaf rolls with rice. I guess the point of my comment is that I just wanted to tell you that you should have NEVER been treated the way you were here and I know that there is a massive percentage of brits that would agree. I couldn't agree more. Ive been to India, and well to be honest its also a shithole to quote you! It doesn't rain disproportionately at all. The Oxford English Dictionary defines "chav" as a "young person from the working class, usually without a high level of education." In 2004, it was announced as the Oxford Languages "Word of the Year" and entered the mainstream, appearing in documentaries and television shows. I wish you all the luck. Not to say travel in the UK was so expensive, not to mention living there. I'm grateful for your honesty, I sure know it's not easy to find the courage to admit when things are not peachy. Lets forget the Europeans for a minute , delusional Brits think as an Indian I must find the UK to be a paradise but I absolutely HATE it. The one you get to see as an outsider and the one you experience once you are on the inside. Please bear in mind that these prices are without internet, food, transportation, clothes, personal care or any sort of entertainment. But thinking back to recent trips abroad I've just brushed it off as "holiday syndrome" when I've thought about how much happier other places seemed to be! Good luck finding your new base guys :) Can't wait to see where you travel to! Will I ever go back to the UK? Hi Ella, thank you for your warm comment. But the more you integrate, the more you see the issues too. We are much happier out of the uk as it is now over populated in general. Once again, thanks for this post, I will be recommending it to my friends. It would be good if we could connect and talk. I cycle to work and yes it does rain at times, but much less than elsewhere and often times it only rains a little bit, so you don't actually get really wet. The cost of HS2 is mainly in legal fees ! Many greetings, Josefa! Brexit will force the country to develop the regions and become less dependent on London, which in turn will reduce the pressure on housing in the South-East. But its like I've always maintained since the vote happened is that lots of people voted Brexit for many complex reasons. The good news is that infrastructure is relatively good in the UK. James, why don't you blame your country's class system and people like Tom Hiddleston and Clara DeLavigne who get jobs, and fame in Hollywood, and volunteering opportunities instead of immigration? I have a feeling we'll do OK. I explain a bit more about why I want to move away here: http://www.anestingnomad.com/2016/07/i-want-to-emigrate-to-australia.html/ and the good news that I am (visa willing) about to move is here: http://www.anestingnomad.com/2016/12/my-big-news-is.html/. All the best to your travels and keep us posted.x, Thank you, Ryazan. I've lived in both. I went through the whole British educational system. But usually I live in Scotland with my British partner and we've discussed leaving the UK in a few years for all the reasons you mentioned. The term is used to describe an anti-social lower-class youth dressed in sportswear. I still remember wanting to go from Bristol to London and prices being close to 150 for a return ticket. Stuffed peppers and aubergines with meat and rice. Its good to hear that you are happy now you have moved back to the UK. [9][10] By 2005 the term had become widespread in its use as to refer to a type of anti-social, uncultured youth, who wear excessive flashy jewellery, white athletic shoes, baseball caps, and sham designer clothes. As an educated immigrant with a PhD in Engineering who has lived in the UK for 10 years and contributed immensely from every aspect, I cannot agree more with your well written article. I do hope you visit the UK. You do not need an address in the UK for yourself. It is used in envy by the lily livered, privileged, pale, besuited bank clerk who sees people dressed up to the nines and going to the West End." It's no. I still had responsibilities, I still had bad days but it was all worth it. Once I would have thought you were exaggerating. I moved to London 6 months ago from another wealthy Western European country, in search of better work opportunities, to further my career and basically to build a life. About 12 years ago when I came to study in Manchester, Britain was a different place. Nearly 1% of the population were new immigrants every year !!! No life. I agree what you said 90%. I'm not quite at the point where I'm ready to leave yet, but I do know I don't want to "settle" there, and I can definitely understand your urge to leave. Some of these guys were around in the 80's and were punks back then (the non racist kind). If I would move, it would be to Barcelona. Can you see what they did there? Life is getting so tagged here also .:( I understand totally. I have worked with high ranking government officials in the UK and I have SERVED IN THE BRITISH ARMY. Whether you decided to stay home in the UK or embark on an adventure in some distant land, I wish you health, wealth and happiness. Tolerant please don't make me laugh. I have faced racism almost everyday including in my jobs. But please know that you and your husband are welcome, you are safe, and if our government ever decides to sort themselves out and stop being absolute tools, I hope you come back some day :) But in the meantime have an absolute blast in Portugal, Hungary and wherever else the wind takes you! But now that has been reversed through the mainstream political narrative embracing populist views. I think you got it all right! Brexit will cost the UK so much money and create a huge division. Thank you so much for your heartfelt message. Thank you. I expected common decency, nice people, reasonable food , good housing, trustworthy politics and decent weather. Think beautiful places in Scotland, stunning beaches in Cornwall and romantic places in England. Outside brilliant minds are no longer welcome to contribute to the Great British societies and money is being invested in privatisation and corporations as opposed to a stable economy, educated, informed and healthy population. There's a lot more than that. I wish you happiness :), I got in Uk 17 years ago , a child 20 at that time ,didnt know what the future holds .Moving on , two children now, a house in mortgages, and a difficult financial situation. As you can imagine, there are probably many EU nationals rethinking their options after Brexit and scanning the internet for input and answers. I'm beginning to feel incredibly out of place and more at home when I'm on my own whether I've locked myself up in a room at my parents, or traveling solo around the world. We think you are awesome. I don't know anymore. Brexit was a big factor, as was the general expense and weather. Accommodation: yeah, pretty expensive to be fair :). The main reason is that I see the EU as being an impossible project, led by weak consensus politicians with no grand vision for economic growth. "Chav" (/tv/), also "charver", "scally" and "roadman" in parts of England, is a British term, usually used in a pejorative way. Adulthood showed me the REAL England. British people *know* their country is in decline. It's not true about the weather at all! Sometimes it's nice to come back and see it all through the eyes of a spectator. Our neighbours have been fantastic and really welcoming. Complete and utter rubbish. It is dangerous to assume that all British people are racists. The word "chav", and its various synonyms and regional variations, has become a ubiquitous term of abuse for white working class subjects. I can bet on that! Neah, I think both Sarah and I just hate the wet island. And it was because of these bright minds that I chose to become British too. Portugal is the 4th safest country in Europe England used to be a nice place and I really wish we could do something to increase the safety rankings. I agree with Cory 100% im English myself but i really hate living near London the people are violent , too many are on very serious drugs or are junkies and again i agree you cant walk the streets at night safely , In my situation im a transgender woman and too many men in the UK have very homophobic views towards people like me , ive been abused and beaten up in my past and i really just want out of this country now as i am a hard working woman i dont sponge or claim benefits and can live independently in any country as long as im accepted by the local community , I think i will move to Denmark as there people are civilised unlike the UK where they seem to be stuck in the 1950s. I checked some pictures and it looks sooo beautiful! Andy: The word 'chav' was in the news again last year following the England riots during an interview on Newsnight when David Starkey said that a substantial section of chavs had become black in terms of the culture they adopt and the way they speak and he got in quite a lot of trouble for saying it. I do hope you move to Barcelona soon! I must also take a moment to express my gratitude towards your concern for my wellbeing. Hes the Mrs Bucket candidate; and yet his shiny top hat and molecule-thin veneer of civilisation somehow hypnotises his target demographic into forgetting his divisive and dangerous extremism. xx Morgan. Its not credible to suggest El Salvador is safer than the US. I know I am not perfect, but I am trying hard to become better at it. I have seen both. I hope you find a new place you will call home. Hi Laura, We would absolutely love to visit St Helena Island one day. The Windrush generation certainly did not receive welcome open arms. It feels like the majority of the population hate being alive, and the infamous make-do and stiff-upper-lip attitude gets to me. They have Netflix, the internet, consumerism, vacations abroad etc just as we do. Being English is a privilege, the UK is a good country and one of the best in the world. Their son is married to an expat German met at work, so globalising at a very fast rate. Is it because you're desperately trying to get away, and you can't? UK is a wonderful country and the best country in the world for people looking for a better life, I live in usa and is not easy here is a tough country but because we are British things are easier for us that is the honest truth but is tough country. I was born/raised in the UK (with brief spells in Germany), and wanted to thank you for your nuanced, albeit slightly depressing post. You see, I actually love the pace in London. In Ontario (particularly in Toronto), the term is "hoodman", an equivalent of the term "roadman" used in England. It always rains. Schools are over crowded NHS at breaking point, road traffic down south mostly at a stand still and violent crime on the rise. I mean let's spend millions on exiting. Excellent read! I'm an immigrant to the UK - welll technically not right now as I'm yet in the midst of another visa application - mostly due to Brexit delays. Good luck, Cory. I personally think that is more noble. I had lived in New York and Sydney before, so I know big cities but I have NEVER in my life felt so unwelcome, unsafe, treated badly, alone, and unhappy as I have been in the UK. I have a partner and were happy but other than that relationship I have no fulfilment. There are a lot of good things about this island. I want to thank You for sharing this post as it contains a lot of details and it has been very useful, thanks a lot for sharing, I Really enjoyed the article, it was well written and So Much of what the writer wrote about British people including the racism, Brexit, political views is Very True. [11], It has also been suggested that the term is derived from the name of the town of Chatham, in Kent, but the Oxford English Dictionary thinks this is "probably a later rationalization". There were very few British born citizens working those jobs, and it's because very few British born citizens can go beyond the thinking that working in a fast food chain or as a cleaner or in a call centre for minimum wage is below them. They live off of their UK pension. They don't care for the virtuous and preachy nonsense that London obsesses with whilst the roads get more clogged, economy tanks etc. There are so many Brits in Spain and Portugal. From my experience the world has a habit of reminding people about the best things in the UK. This is not to say that England (or the rest of the UK) is not a good place to live. The UK has more international communities than any other country in the world. Learn more. Don't confuse friendliness with openness. Perhaps because they carry England as it is remembered, not as it is. I was bummed I didn't get to see as much of the UK as I had hoped! The "immigrants who are here to steal the jobs"? Stop running it down, we didn't ask you to come here and complain about everything. And so, nobody ever remembered the severe damage the conservative party did to this country throughout the years. [10] In the 2010 book Stab Proof Scarecrows by Lance Manley, it was surmised that "chav" was an abbreviation for "council housed and violent". 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